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Anneliese Gordon's avatar

It is interesting to note that the British ensured the security of their 7 staff in the UK Mission, whilst Emily Thornberry questioned whether the Israeli's could even close the Consulate bearing in mind it's in 'Palestine'. If that is so, why does the UK Mission require Israel to provide any security at all? Against whom does it require security? From where does the threat come?

Steven Brizel's avatar

After Pearl Harbor generals and admirals were cashiered but FDR neither resigned was impeached or defeated in his 1944 election campaign. The notion that Bibi is responsible for the gross failure of the IDF and the security establishment is ludicrous

Charles Knapp's avatar

More than that, a conspiracy theory took root back then that Pearl Harbor was the outcome of FDR’s plan to drag an unwilling U.S. into the second European war within a quarter century.

As with every conspiracy, different theories were floated. The most common was that FDR knew of the impending attack and intentionally did nothing. Another was that FDR forced Japan into attacking when he imposed oil and iron on Japan.

Also, as with every conspiracy theory, certain glaring issues were ignored. Here the most obvious and ignored question was how exactly would the Japanese attack result in the U.S. joining the war effort in Europe? Put more starkly, how did FDR maneuver Hitler to declare war against the U.S. four days later?

Similar conspiracy mongering against PM Netanyahu only demonstrates the truth of the adage, there is nothing new under the Sun.

NANCE SCHMANCE's avatar

Yes, and yes to Charles Knapp also. FDR knew Pearl was going to be bombed, did NOT inform his two top officers on Pearl of what was going to happen, allowed us to be attacked, and THEN had the audacity to court-martial the two officers, generals or admirals he never informed. This from my 93-yr-old USN Capt retired veteran (& one of the good guys in 'the agency) close trusted friend.

Steven Brizel's avatar

This is also one of the oldest conspiracy theories that has never proven by any proof

Freedom Lover's avatar

Its been comprehensively disproven. But we all know that proof will never stop a conspiracist.

Les Vitailles's avatar

Lessons should have been drawn from the Gilad Shalit, where Israel returned 1000+ Palestinian prisoners, including most of the leaders of Oct 7, after 5 years of captivity.

Why would Hamas ever have kept some hostages for less time when holding even one would provide such rewards for many years?

In a world with fewer coincidences than meets the eye, it was the IDF strike on Qatar that put real pressure on Hamas from its chief sponsor.

Dbn123's avatar

The UK has historically been anti-Semitic and since WW2 anti-a state of Israel. Closing that consulate would have been just desserts for the self-hating Jew Miliband.

I do have a question though. Why does Israel need Europe more than Europe needs Israel? Whatever Israel imports from Europe, couldn’t those goods be replaced elsewhere? I ask because Europe is becoming more and more Muslim and we will look back at these days as the “good old days” of the Israeli-European relationship.

NANCE SCHMANCE's avatar

GM from commiefornia, dear. Thank you for your comment from yesterday. I believe it goes back to long before General Allenby and T. E. Lawrence and WW1. I'll go back to before 135 AD with evil Emperor Hadrian. God bless.

yiftach Paltrowitz's avatar

With the new UK Mission the British have gone back to their original role as missionaries.

Esther Yael Goldberg's avatar

I wish them better luck than they had the first time.

NANCE SCHMANCE's avatar

One more thing: European women are not, just as here in America, choosing to have babies, nor are men choosing to get married and have families. Muslim births are 8.2% while here and nonmuslims in Europe are at about 1.3 babies. Fact. Horrific fact. So they are indeed 'breeding' us out.

Justin N's avatar

Well, commercially, Europe as a whole comprises around 36% of Israel's merchandise export market. Ironically, o ne of Israel's greatest detractors, Ireland, is its 7th or 8th largest single market, peaking in 2024 as its second largest market after the US.

Freedom Lover's avatar

It is vitally important that the vipers of Europe understand there is a serious consequences to their feeding the Islamist beast at Israel's expense. And it should ultimately go much further than shutting a consulate.

NANCE SCHMANCE's avatar

Todah rabah, Amit. Definitely not the England I knew from studying history in Europe in 1974. You couldn't PAY me to go anywhere in Europe now; except I do miss my paternal WW1 grandparents' Croatia. Twenty years ago, I sounded the alarm as far as I could; not many listened. I will never forget the video that long ago of the imam on a crowded French train station platform holding up one of their infants screaming that they would "breed Europe out". Well, they're doing it. But again, Adonai Yeshua H'Mashiach said this would happen in the Last Days after He returned to Heaven, which really accelerated on May 14, 1948 (praise God!): Revelation 1:7= Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. (ME: P.S. - we ALL pierced Jesus and put Him on the cross - every human being who ever lived - Our Joshua 24:15 home stands WITH ISRAEL FOREVER. <>< in prayer for everyone everywhere, even our enemies for who Jesus told us to pray as He died for them also.